Trump triumphs over the Pope: Francis backs down over ‘not Christian’ claim

 

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Trump triumphs over the Pope: Francis backs down over ‘not Christian’ claim

Vatican says it was not a ‘personal attack’ or attempt to influence presidential vote

  • Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi says calling Trump ‘not Christian’ for wanting to build a wall was not ‘a personal attack’ 
  • Papal official suggested Pope was reacting to ‘what he was told’ about billionaire’s position  
  • Trump had issued furious denunciation of Pope Francis for his comments, made on way back from Papal visit to Mexico 
  • Today Trump accepted the partial olive branch, saying the Papal statement was ‘beautiful’
  • After Vatican’s speedy retreat and told campaign stop in South Carolina that Mexican government was to blame for telling Pope 
  • See more on Pope Francis and his claims against Donald Trump

The Vatican today executed a speedy climb-down in its feud with Donald Trump – handing the Republican White House hopeful a major political victory.

Pope Francis‘s suggestion that Trump was ‘not Christian’ because of his views on immigration was not a personal attack on the candidate, Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said on Friday.

Lombardi told Vatican radio that the pope’s comments, which were denounced by Trump, were simply an affirmation of his longstanding belief that migrants should be helped and welcomed rather than shut off behind walls.

He also leaned toward confirming Trump’s contention that his statement that Trump was ‘not a Christian’ was based largely on ‘what he was told’ about the billionaire’s position.

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Taking the olive branch: Campaigning in South Carolina, Trump praised the Pope and said: 'The Pope was great. He made a beautiful statement this morning.'

Taking the olive branch: Campaigning in South Carolina, Trump praised the Pope and said: ‘The Pope was great. He made a beautiful statement this morning.’

Retreat: The Vatican's official spokesman  raised the white flag in a radio interview in which he said the Pope was not personally attacking Trump, and was reacting to what he had been told about the billionaire's plans

Retreat: The Vatican’s official spokesman  raised the white flag in a radio interview in which he said the Pope was not personally attacking Trump, and was reacting to what he had been told about the billionaire’s plans

Trump said Thursday that he suspected the Mexican government had propagandized to the Pontiff about him, prompting the unusual condemnation from the leader of the world’s Roman Catholics.

‘This wasn’t in any way a personal attack, nor an indication of who to vote for,’ Lombardi said.

‘The Pope has clearly said he didn’t want to get involved in the electoral campaign in the US, and also said that he said what he said on the basis of what he was told [about Trump], hence giving him the benefit of the doubt.’

THE GREAT WALL CLIMB-DOWN

‘This wasn’t in any way a personal attack, nor an indication of who to vote for.

The Pope has clearly said he didn’t want to get involved in the electoral campaign in the US, and also said that he said what he said on the basis of what he was told [about Trump], hence giving him the benefit of the doubt.

The Pope said what we already know, if we followed his teaching and positions: We shouldn’t build walls, but bridges.

He has always said that, continuously. He also said that in relation to migration in Europe many times. 

So this is not a specific issue, limited to this particular case.

It’s his generic view, coherent with the nature of solidarity from the Gospel.’ 

Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi

But in the same breath, Lombardi defended the Pontiff’s statement from Thursday and declared that he had said nothing new.

‘The Pope said what we already know, if we followed his teaching and positions: We shouldn’t build walls, but bridges.’

‘He has always said that, continuously,’ he added. ‘He also said that in relation to migration in Europe many times. So this is not a specific issue, limited to this particular case.’

‘It’s his generic view, coherent with the nature of solidarity from the Gospel.’

Trump continued the quick about-face on Friday morning in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, praising the Vatican for walking back the Pontiff’s criticism – although he seemed under the impression that Francis himself had spoken on the subject.

‘The Pope was great. He made a beautiful statement this morning,’ he told a capacity crowd at the Myrtle Beach Sports Center, an indoor rec center the size of eight basketball courts.

‘They had him convinced that illegal immigration is, like, a wonderful thing!’ Trump exclaimed, referring to Mexico’s government.

‘Not wonderful for us. It’s wonderful for Mexico. Not wonderful.’

Trump repeated his well-worn refrain that America’s southern neighbor will pay for a lengthy border wall, and pointed out an audience member dressed as a construction worker, complete with hard hat and tool belt.

The man carried a sign that read: ‘I’m ready to work on the wall!’

‘We give massive subsidy to Mexico,’ Trump said. ‘The wall is going to cost 10 to 12 billion bucks. Our trade deficit is like $58 billion.’

Trump: Pope convinced immigration is ‘wonderful thing’

‘Mexico is going to pay for it, folks. It’s so easy. It’s so easy.’

The olive branch of sorts from the Vatican came less than 24 hours after the Pope’s explosive intervention in the presidential campaign.

Asked about Trump and his plan to build a wall between Mexico and the U.S. to stop illegal immigration, he called said that a man with such a plan was ‘not Christian.’

‘A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian,’ he said.

‘This is not in the Gospel. As far as what you said about whether I would advise to vote or not to vote, I am not going to get involved in that.

‘I say only that this man is not Christian if he has said things like that.’

His answer promoted an immediate and furious denunciation from Trump, as well as a massive backlash on social media, where the Pope was mocked for living in the Vatican, itself a walled city-state.

AT POPE WAS ASKED ON PLANE TO ROME – AND EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID

The Associated Press released a full transcript and translation of the exchange between an unnamed reporter and the Pope on  board the Pontiff’s flight from Mexico

Q: Good evening, Your Holiness. Today you spoke eloquently about the problems of migrants. 

On the other side of the frontier there’s a very tough electoral campaign going on. One of the Republican candidates for the White House, Donald Trump, in a recent interview, said you are a ‘political man’ and that maybe you are a pawn of the Mexican government as far as immigration policy is concerned. 

He has said that if elected, he would build a 2,500-kilometer-long wall along the border. He wants to deport 11 million illegal immigrants, thus separating families, etc. 

I would like to ask you, first off, what do you think of these accusations against you, and if an American Catholic can vote for someone like this.

A: Thank God he said I was a politician because Aristotle defined the human person as ‘animal politicus’. So at least I am a human person. 

As to whether I am a pawn, well, maybe, I don’t know. I’ll leave that up to your judgment and that of the people. And then, a person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. 

This is not in the Gospel. As far as what you said about whether I would advise to vote or not to vote, I am not going to get involved in that. 

I say only that this man is not Christian if he has said things like that. We must see if he said things in that way and in this I give the benefit of the doubt.

Pope Francis vs. Donald Trump: The battle of words 

Trump’s aides helped him craft a biting reply – which he said took ‘one minute’ to write. He read it from a podium during a late-morning speech in coastal South Carolina.

By day’s end the conflict drew Trump’s Republican rivals out of the shadows, with former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio – the presidential race’s two Roman Catholics – backing The Donald over The Pontiff.

‘For a religious leader to question a person’s faith is disgraceful,’ Trump said in South Carolina, just two days before the state’s critical presidential primary election.

He doubled down on that comment when he spoke to DailyMail.com at lunch.

Trump issued a furious response, reading a lengthy statement from the podium on a campaign stop in the coastal community of Kiawah Island.

He reflected on the seismic impact of crossing swords with the leader of the world’s largest religious denomination, and shrugged it off.

‘Now it’s probably going to be all over the world. Who the hell cares? I don’t care!’ he said. ‘We have to stop illegal immigration … and crime.’

Blame the Mexicans: Trump said the Pope had been led astray by the Mexican government. 'They had him convinced that illegal immigration is, like, a wonderful thing!' he told the crowd

Blame the Mexicans: Trump said the Pope had been led astray by the Mexican government. ‘They had him convinced that illegal immigration is, like, a wonderful thing!’ he told the crowd

Crowded: Trump attracted a huge audience as he spoke in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. His furious response to the Pope appears to have gained him political capital

Crowded: Trump attracted a huge audience as he spoke in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. His furious response to the Pope appears to have gained him political capital

Back to the day job: Pope Francis, center, went to prayers at the Redemptoris Mater chapel, in the Vatican as his spokesman executed a swift retreat on the Trump front

Back to the day job: Pope Francis, center, went to prayers at the Redemptoris Mater chapel, in the Vatican as his spokesman executed a swift retreat on the Trump front

Trump blasted the Vatican for what he said was a naive outlook on the ISIS terror army, saying in a statement released to reporters that ‘If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS’s ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the Pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been President because this would not have happened.’

‘ISIS would have been eradicated unlike what is happening now with our all talk, no action politicians.’

Trump partisans, including his social media director Dan Scavino, circulated photos of the massive wall that separates Vatican City from the rest of Rome.

‘Amazing comments from the Pope – considering Vatican City is 100% surrounded by massive walls,’ Scavino wrote in a highly retweeted message.

And reporters swarmed around the rest of the presidential field looking for reactions to the global cultural battle royale.

Rubio told reporters during a press conference in Anderson, South Carolina, that he had not seen the Holy Father’s full statement, but defended the Republican Party’s line – essentially, Trump’s position – on immigration.

‘There’s no nation on earth that’s more compassionate about immigration than we are,’ Rubio said.

Noting that the U.S. takes in a million immigrants a year, he declared that ‘Mexico doesn’t do that. No other country in the world does that.’

‘We’re a sovereign country. We have a right to control who comes in, when they come in and how they come in,’ he added.

‘Vatican City controls who comes in, when they come and how they come in, as a nation-state, or a city-state. And as a result, the United States has a right to do that as well.’

Bush also rushed to Trump’s defense and insisted that no one should determine the validity of another person’s faith in God.

‘I think his Christianity is between he and his creator. Don’t think we need to discuss that,’ Bush told reporters in Columbia, South Carolina, according to CBS News.

The campaign straggler did throw a shoulder at Trump for his boasts about ISIS, suggesting the billionaire isn’t prepared to mount a serious military campaign against the terror army.

Donald Trump's social media director reminded the Twitterverse that Vatican City was surrounded by a very large wall 

Donald Trump’s social media director reminded the Twitterverse that Vatican City was surrounded by a very large wall

‘As it relates to his policies related to ISIS, he’s not the right guy to be commander-in-chief,’ Bush said.

But there were signs Thursday night that Trump wanted to bury the hatchet and move past the conflict.

At a CNN town hall, he emphasized that the Pope’s comments were exaggerated by early media reports.

‘I think he said something much softer than what was originally reported by the media. I think that he heard one side of the story, which is probably by the Mexican government,’ Trump said.

‘He didn’t see the tremendous strain that the border is causing us with respect to illegal immigration, [and] with the drugs pouring across the border.’

The Donald said he would be interested in a sit-down with Francis to hash out their differences.

‘I’ll do it any time he wants. I mean, it would be very interesting,’ he said.

‘I like him. I mean, I like him as a personality. I like what he represents. And I certainly have great respect for the position.’

Cooper chuckled at recalling a 2015 Iowa event during which Trump told a skeptical audience of evangelical Christians that asking the Almighty for forgiveness wasn’t a common ritual in his faith life.

‘Was there a moment when you first heard the Pope had said something about you, that you thought, ‘Maybe I’m gonna have to ask

for forgiveness?” Cooper asked him.

‘No,’ he replied, as the studio audience laughed along with him.

‘No. Look, I have a lot of respect for the Pope. I think he’s got a lot of personality. He’s very different. He’s a very different kind of a guy. And I think he’s doing a very good job. He’s got a lot of energy.’

‘But I’d say that I think he was very much misinterpreted. And I also think he was given false information.’

Trump said he wished Francis had ‘heard our side, the side from people who live in the United States.’

HOW RAID BY MUSLIM PIRATES PROMPTED VATICAN TO BUILD ITS WALL

Vatican City is the smallest independent state in the world. An enormous stone wall acts as a boundary between the micronation and the rest of Italy.

Nowadays, it serves as a way for the Swiss Guard to control the stream of tourists coming in and out of the Pope’s home.

But, just over 1,200 years ago, it was an integral form of protection for the Pope, who was a targeted figure after the fall of the Holy Roman Empire .

A huge stone wall surrounds the Vatican City, the smallest state in the world. The Pope suggested that Trump planning to build a wall between the U.S. and Mexico was not Christian 

A huge stone wall surrounds the Vatican City, the smallest state in the world. The Pope suggested that Trump planning to build a wall between the U.S. and Mexico was not Christian

The fortification was first built after a raid by Muslim pirates in 846. Arab raiders sacked Rome in a bid to find treasures.

Watch towers were put in place to watch for would-be intruders.

It also helped to protect Pope Gregory VII around 200 years later when the Holy Roman Emperor besieged Rome.

The fortification was first built after a raid by Muslim pirates in 846. Arab raiders sacked Rome in a bid to find treasures. In the 19th century it kept the Pope separate from the rest of Italy 

The fortification was first built after a raid by Muslim pirates in 846. Arab raiders sacked Rome in a bid to find treasures. In the 19th century it kept the Pope separate from the rest of Italy

In the 1640s, Pope Paul III expanded the fortifications, and additional defenses.

In 1870, the Pope’s residency in the Vatican was left in flux when Rome was annexed by the Piedmont-led forces which had united the rest of Italy.

They had created the Kingdom of Italy, a change opposed by Pope Pius XIII as it undermined his autonomy in some areas.

Between 1861 and 1929 the status of the Pope was referred to as the ‘Roman Question’ and the walls served as a way of keeping him isolated from the rest of Italy.

Within the walls, Italian politicians did not challenge the Pope’s autonomy. But, in other parts of the country, church items were confiscated.

In 1871, the Palazzo Quirinale, the Papal palace since 1583, was confiscated by the king of Italy and became the royal palace.

Thereafter, Popes resided undisturbed within the Vatican walls.

Certain papal prerogatives were recognized by the Law of Guarantees, including the right to send and receive ambassadors.

But the Popes did not recognise the Italian king’s right to rule in Rome, and they refused to leave the Vatican compound until the dispute was resolved in 1929.

Ever since the autonomy of the Vatican within the walls has not been challenged by the Italian government.

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