Black Box Proves Missile Didn’t Do It





Breaking: Russian Satellite Imagery on MH17 (Black Box and New Evidence)

by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor
Veterans Today

Black Box Proves Missile Didn’t Do It

Scroll down for our update on “explosive decompression” and aircraft cannon coverage.  Simply put, shrapnel or “fragmentation” can’t blow an airplane apart.  Bullets have little effect and even blowing out a door or window won’t do much.  However, a moderate bomb can do much, as you can check below.  A bigger bomb now seems to be the answer and, just perhaps, the missile seen below as a way of trying to blame Russia.

Read the new material supplied by Los Alamos National Labs.  If you have questions, list them and we will endeavor to get you the answers.


Reporting on Malaysian Airlines flight MH17  has become childish, irresponsible and many have actually decided to invent wild stories even worse than the government/AIPAC lies.

Some such stories are on Veterans Today, stories totally unresearched, stories that are groundless and based on speculation and bad brain chemistry.  Such stories push our editorial limits as they are no more than spam.

We have made note of several findings thus far.  We have noted that were a missile used, an exhaust trail would have been visible for many miles and would have been photographed.  It was not and, thus, never existed.  Locals were questioned, none saw a launch nor exhausts.

The Russians have finally allowed someone to send us their video of MH17.  Judge for yourself.  We stick to “bomb” but are taking this under advisement:

[ Note: What you will be watching below is not a black and white image but infrared one. Hotter items show up as white. What looks like a launch smoke plume is not…but the infared heat signature. If  you rewatch it and freeze at the beginning you will see the white hot spot dot where the launcher was in the tree line. There is a smoke plume, very visible, loud, and more visible as it gets higher…Jim W. Dean ]

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Video shows Kolomoisky forces firing on MH17.    These units are led by Israeli volunteers. Thus far, this is the “best evidence” though we are still going with wreckage until the US can offer its own suppressed satellite imagery.


The next video is visual video demo of an updatee BuK_M2 SAM missile battery firing to give you an eye level view. When you watch the missile get high you will have a feel for how many people must have seen it…and heard it. So a major anomally here is why did not more of the public witnesses it, post Youtube videos or cel phone uploadings showing this event. Could all of that been electronically blocked somehow?

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Accused Israeli - Cypriot Terrorist Leader Kolomoisky

Among those going into battle from the Ukrainian side are some 500 trained fighters in the self-declared Azov battalion, backed by Jewish energy magnate and Dnipropetrovsk region governor, Igor Kolomoisky, according to Israel’s Ma’ariv daily.

A source at Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council, cited by Voice of Russia, claimed that “Kolomoisky is the most outspoken opponent of the plan on settling the situation in the East of Ukraine.”

In April, Kolomoisky placed a $10,000 bounty on the head of any Russian “saboteur,” caught, according to the UK’s The Guardian, which added that turning over a grenade launcher to Kiev authorities would net finders $2,000, and $1,500 for every heavy machine gun handed in.”

Video of Kolomoisky troops shelling civilians in Gorlovski only an hour ago.

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The US has two spy ships off Ukraine.  If a missile were fired, they would have evidence as would our satellites that have watched that region since “forever.”  No evidence exists.  On the contrary, we did find evidence that only Ukrainian army has such weapons.  When that was told to the press, they were told that it should be reported that the Ukrainian Army units may well have “defected” to the rebels and then “re-defected” or is it “un-defected” back again.

It isn’t just the blogger amateurs that make things up.  We are still faced with a bomb on a plane, put there in Schip(h)ol Airport.  We now have evidence of “salted” wreckage being hauled in.  This is the funny part, a real ground to air missile may, at best, put about a pound, two at max, of steel balls and small parts into a plane.  Here is a quote from VT editor, Colonel James Hanke, an actual expert on air defense systems:

“From the examination of ‘recently found’ pieces of wreckage, it looks like they fired an ICBM at the plane, perhaps one with a 53 Studebaker strapped to the top.  Blast patterns on what appears to be ‘salted’ wreckage indicates a warhead of several thousand pounds.”

This is way too dense of a strike pattern for a ground to air missle

When Wayne Madsen wrote an article describing the use of a BUK/SA11 system against Air Algerie, our correspondent in North Africa, UN Arms inspector Alan Smythee, almost died laughing.  “They can’t even tie their shoes or keep a Fiat running…”

The failure to recognize a pattern of activity from the repulsive new Egyptian government and their role in Gaza to the bizarre comedy act in Mosul to the Tel Aviv based oligarchs now ruling Ukraine, a failure by the press, by all the press, by governments certainly, is astounding.

We are very much watching the SSG, Secret Shadow Government, fighting the beginnings of a world war, one fought with terrorism, ethnic cleansing and psychological warfare.  Though elections are openly stolen in the United States, we see millions of Americans basking in race hatred, class envy and simple idiocy, supporting the SSG with every fibre of their being.

The organ’s of the SSG, the Jamestown Foundation, Rand Corporation, Heritage Foundation, US Chamber of Commerce, National Association of Manufacturers, the National Rifle Association, the Potomac Institute, PJ Media, AIPAC, the ACL, the SPLC, the American Legion, the American Enterprise Institute and so many others are openly working to enslave this country.

There is overwhelming evidence that several operate biological and chemical weapons facilities, are involved in bizarre genetic projects in North Korea, are responsible for Benghazi, Sandy Hook, the Breveik killings in Norway (more attacks warned of), traffic in narcotics, human organs and run a worldwide pedophile ring.

This group/cabal had been involved, through the 1990′s, in the theft of nuclear weapons from the United States, in partnership with Victor Bout, weapons sold around the world, weapons reconfigured for terror attacks, perhaps the worst kept secret in the world with a suppressed FBI investigation, full involvement of US special operations commands and even a Department of Energy report outlining it all. 

Intelligence agencies around the world, now aware this material is out there, after Veterans Today published “proofs,” are offering everything.  Threats will follow.  It is an accepted believe that, in the right or “wrong” hands, this information can bring down governments.

With them is an endless stream of cults, the majority more or less satanic, operating inside Judaism, Catholicism and Evangelical Christianity.  ISIS is the first truly satanic Islamic cult.  All are carefully coordinated through a network of handlers, drowning in cash stolen by the Federal Reserve and backed by a flood of politicians around the world, heads of state in France, the UK and Australia, the list can go on.


Explosive Decompression from “Shrapnel” Debunked

Explosive decompression (ED) refers to a sudden marked drop in the pressure of a system that occurs in less than 0.1 seconds, associated with explosive violence. Generally it results from some sort of material fatigue or engineering failure, causing a contained system to suddenly vent into the external atmosphere.Seals in high pressure vessels are also susceptible to explosive decompression; the rubber gaskets used to seal pressurized pipelines tend to become saturated with high-pressure gases. If the pressure inside the vessel is suddenly released, then the gases within the rubber gasket may expand violently, causing blistering or explosion of the material. For this reason, it is common for military and industrial equipment to be subjected to an explosive decompression test before it is certified as safe for use.The pressure drop in other situations often takes longer than 0.1 second, and is then more accurately described as rapid decompression. Well known examples of explosive decompression are the Buford Dolphin diving bell accident and the Turkish Airlines Flight 981 disaster.Misunderstandings of the meaning of the words are quite likely to be a fueling factor for a persistent myth that humans would explode if exposed to the non-pressure of space. Accidents in space exploration research and high-altitude aviation have shown that while vacuum exposure causes swelling, human skin is tough enough to handle a drop of one ATM. A sudden drop of eight ATM in the Buford Dolphin accident had intensely fatal results.


National and international standards for explosive decompression testing include:MIL-STD-810, 202
API 17K and 17J
NACE TM0192 and TM0297
TOTALELFFINA SP TCS 142 Appendix H———————————————————————————————————————-

Aloha Airlines Flight 243

Fuselage of Aloha Airlines Flight 243 after the explosive decompression.
Accident summary
Date 28 April 1988
Summary Explosive decompression caused by fatigue failure
Site KahuluiHawaii
Passengers 90
Crew 5
Injuries (non-fatal) 65
Fatalities 1
Survivors 94
Aircraft type Boeing 737-297
Aircraft name Queen Liliuokalani
Operator Aloha Airlines
Registration N73711
Flight origin Hilo Int’l Airport (ITO)
Destination Honolulu Int’l Airport (HNL

Aloha Airlines Flight 243 (AQ 243AAH 243) was a scheduled Aloha Airlines flight between Hilo and Honolulu in Hawaii. On April 28, 1988, a Boeing 737-297 serving the flight suffered extensive damage after an explosive decompression in flight, but was able to land safely at Kahuna Airport on Maui. There was one fatality, flight attendant Clara belle “C.B.” Lansing, who was swept overboard from the airplane. Another 65 passengers and crew were injured.

The safe landing of the aircraft despite the substantial damage inflicted by the decompression established Aloha Airlines Flight 243 as a significant event in the history of aviation, with far-reaching effects on aviation safety policies and procedures.


The Truth About Explosive Decompression

By  on July 7, 2004

Is it true that if you shoot a bullet through the skin of an airliner in flight, everyone would get sucked out the little hole? If not, Hollywood has a lot of explaining to do.

Adam and Jamie from Myth busters on the Discovery Channel set out the other night to find out if this was true. The myth is based on the fact that an airliner at 35,000 feet is like a balloon flying through the air — the air pressure on the inside (pushing out against the inside of the plane) is much higher than the ambient air pressure at that altitude.

When you pierce the skin of a balloon with a pin, the whole thing pops. The pressurized air inside the balloon rushes out with such force that it “grabs” the edges of the hole as it leaves and tears the balloon apart in an instant. The same should be true for an airliner, right? And everything in the plane should go rushing out the hole, right?

No. Myth busters proved this wasn’t the case, thus proving wrong several dozen action movies and at least oneJames Bond film. And, true to Myth buster’s style, they proved this point with a veritable tidal wave of geekiness.

They went to an airline graveyard in the Mohave Desert and found an old Hawaiian Airlines 737. They sealed it up, then brought in a massive air compressor and pumped the plane full of air until the difference between the interior of the plane and the air at sea level was the same as it would be if the plane was flying at 35,000 feet.

Now the cool part — inside the plane, they had parked their crash-test dummy, Buster, in a window seat. In the aisle, they rigged up a Glock 9mm to a firing mechanism and pointed it at the hull of the plane. Then, with the plane fully pressurized, they fired the gun remotely.

What happened? Nothing. Sure, the air rushed out, but even Styrofoam peanuts they had placed in the aisle didn’t move, much less Buster. They did the test a second time, this time firing through the window right next to Buster. Same result — nothing.

Not satisfied (I love it when they’re not satisfied…), they rigged explosive cord around the window to simulate the window blowing out due to structural failure. They pressurized the plane again and blew the window.

The results were much more satisfying — Buster got his arm yanked out the window. Crash test dummies aren’t designed to come apart, but if he were a human, I think he would have lost his arm. However, the rest of his body just wasn’t going through the window, no matter what the myth said.

Still not satisfied, Adam and Jamie put a “shaped charge” (whatever that is) against the hull next to Buster’s knee. Plane pressurized once again, they blew the charge.

Now, I don’t know how much damage was from the charge and how much was from the air rushing out, but the entire roof came off the plane. Buster, believe it or not, was still belted in his chair, but there was a 20-foot section of the roof missing. That plane was toast, and it looked eerily similar to Aloha Airlines flight 243 that lost its roof in mid-flight back in 1988.

So, myth busted. However, they didn’t address one thing: the drop in air pressure caused by the velocity of the air outside the plane. You see, the entire concept of flight is based on the fact that air pressure goes down as the speed of the air goes up.

So when a hole gets blown in the side of the plane, even after all the air rushes out and the pressure of the plane is equal to the ambient air pressure at that altitude, you now have 600 m.p.h. air rushing past the hole, which would have a much lower air pressure than the stationary air inside the plane.


NEW MH17 SENSATION: German experts point finger at Ukrainian air-force jets.

By John Ward       

ukrainejetsSurface to air missile attack ruled out as calibre of cockpit bullet holes puts Ukraine pilots in the frame for MH17 murders

This is what a German pilot-cum-air technology expert Peter Haisenko has just published on the subject of the MH17 disaster (my emphases).